I have been discussing with some folks in the US about the idea of having a well marketed website on the Libre Currency. That is an important criteria for the english speaking community, having a good marketing set up is key to get people interested, at least in the US.
We are wondering who is behind the two domain names https://libre-currency.org/
and https://libre-currencies.org/ ? Would it be possible to get transfered the domain name and work to improve the design of the website on wordpress ?
Who is up to work together to improve one of these websites ?
EDIT : after a good debate with the native English speakers in the G1 Telegram group, we agreed, through a small vote, that the Monnaie Libre should be named G1 currency in English, and that we should describe it as a Libre Currency and explain what that means in the introduction of the website.
We decided to eventually create 2 websites :
- A first one to present the G1 currency and how it works; we will use the url g1currency.org
- A second Website (we will create it later) to explain the concept of Libre Currency more in depth. The url of that website could be librecurrency.org (currently owned by @Attilax)
The website g1currency.org is created with the Yeswiki platform/tool. It is a contributive website on which everybody willing to contribute to improve it can do it.
I did a whois on both of those domains. libre-currency.org 's registrant is in France, and the libre-currencies.org appears to be in Switzerland.
If you can’t get in contact with either registrant, you probably want a domain themed specifically for the US not just the English language.
Just as a note, the American left is receptive to the concept of a UBI currency while the right wing is concerned with inflation. However, with the way things are, the American public generally is expecting inflation and already pissed at the federal government. So I think it’s entirely possible for G1 and libre currency to appeal to the American right wing if you introduce it properly. (They, for example, certainly don’t want the government to implement it.)
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librecurrency.org is a domain owned by @attilax
I worked with @somebody for a while on https://libre-currency.org/ . Today theres a weird DNS TXT entry
libre-currency.org text = "4|https://libre-currencies.org"
I don’t remember who is the owner of ibre-currency.org (OVH Expires on 2022-03-01).
Boris is the owner of the domain name https://libre-currencies.org/ (Infomaniak Expires on 2022-04-09)
Do you have someone who can make a website with a CMS like Grav?
@poka, can you fix a VM for the one pointed by https://libre-currency.org/
EDIT : the domain does not need to be renewed, but we need the owner to change the AAAA record to the IP of the VM
Regarding the interpretation of UBI by different cultures, try to contact @Martino . He had a nice analysis of the different attempts at CryptoUBI . And he had a good friendship with Julio from Circles .
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The VM is ok, it’s the domain which has to be renew.
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Thank you for detailed your reply!
I am not sure to understand everything that you wrote, though.
So, my understanding is that http://librecurrency.org/ and https://libre-currency.org/ are not working.
Only https://libre-currencies.org/ has content in it.
I understand that https://libre-currencies.org/ is being created and updated on Grav ?
Is Grav very diffrent from Wordpress ? I can make simple website with CMS like Wordpress. I don’t know Grav but if it is not too technical, I can learn how to use it.
Ok, I had a looked at Grav, and I don’t understand anything…
Is there somebody who could help us to see what could be the best option and how to procede ?
Don’t feel blocked by the technical choices that have been made in the past.
If you want to redesign a website use the tools you know. Charge the domain name owners to point the domain names to the hosting you will have chosen.
If you need hosting (and you know what it means and how to manage it) let us know.
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Grav is a tool to make « static » webpages. Wordpress is used for dynamic webpages (where users can log in, access some sections that, for example, not logged users can not access, etc.).
The main advantage of Grav (static web pages) is that it’s easy to have it in a code repository, like Gitlab/Github) and everybody can improve the website. That’s the way how Duniter wiki has been done, and that’s the reason you have a bottom right button to « Fix this page »: Wiki - Duniter
Another advantage about static web pages is the low maintenance costs, because they don’t need any database nor programming engine like Apache/Nginx, etc. Server requirements are lower too…
But I think a simple alternative to grab is Jekyll: https://jekyllrb.com/
In the other hand, static pages are harder to edit/collaborate for non-tech users. The opposite than Drupal/Wordpress dynamic sites.
Ps.: By the way, I could, if required, build a website using Jekyll (static) or Drupal (dynamic) and host it. I’m not talking about the « idea », contents, structure, just the « technical » stuff to let content managers, editors, etc. have a web to put the info there We can maintain the website just using donations, in an « open collective » way. That’s what we are doing at https://girala.net
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Ok, Thank you for your help!
I am bulding the content ant laying it out on a wordpress.com website as it is easier for me to work on the layout and content, and then we can use it as a base for building it and hosting it on an other plateforme like grav, drupal, jekyllrb or other…
I found another one with a small presentation in English. Do you know who is running it ? Monnaie Libre
Maybe your Wordpress site do the trick And it’s not necessary to build any other site from it… I think the most important goal is having an English site because it seems incredible that free currency has no site at the moment! Even catalans have one! https://monedalliure.org !!
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I don’t know who own and run monnaie-libre.com
– french below
Hi there! Today I spoke with some people who would like to make the Ğ1 known in german-speaking communitites.
Honestly, I find the monnaie-libre.fr website very nice and visually appealing. I wondered if it would not be better to try to set up some kind of translation mechanism directly into the code of the site? What do you think @ManUtopiK?
Aujourd’hui j’ai eu des contacts avec plusieurs personnes parlant allemand. Nous connaissons des germanophones qui seraient intéressés à en savoir plus sur la Ğ1, mais on a remarqué qu’une chose qui manque, c’est un site simple qui explique un peu comment ça fonctionne en allemand. Personnellement, je trouve que le site monnaie-libre.fr est très parlant visuellement, et aussi au niveau des fonctionnalités, et je me demandais s’il ne serait pas plus simple de mettre en place un méchanisme de traduction, plutôt que chacun fasse son petit site de son côté ? Qu’en penses-tu @ManUtopiK ? Pour ce qui est du côté réalisation technique, je pense que je pourrais donner un coup de main , si c’est une solution qui te paraît viable. Cela ne voudrait pas dire qu’il n’y pas d’autre site germanophone ou anglophone, mais ça serait un bon point de départ, non ?
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Nice to see interested people in Germany!
Translation is on the todo list.
I think there will be two kind of translations ; some fixed sentences of the interface, and the articles.
If I set this mechanism, are you up for contributing to help us improve some translations ?
It’ll be welcome. I absolutely know nothing in German
I’m in Switzerland
Yes I would help translate in German, and in English. I think we could do it with JSON files at first, but I think it would be nice to integrate a translation platform such as weblate in the long term (also for other projects). An example can be found here: https://weblate.framasoft.org/.
If you don’t have time to do it or if you need help, I can probably give some hours. I have experience with react-i18n and the integration with another translation platform.
If that helps I started a website in english but never finished it: https://librecurrency.wordpress.com/
It’s on Wordpress.com and I wasn’t planning on leaving it on there. I was just trying to figure out some wording and layout that would be more appealing to american people than the existing English website.
@ManUtopiK good to know the translation is on the todo list. Who is working on it ? If you need help, I could work on it.
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Hi @trayeur @ManUtopiK @arbocenc @scanlegentil @test!
I talked to @yann last week as he joined our online meeting with american people interested in the Libre Currency. There might be some people at Econolibre who could help to translate the website in English. I am trying to put together a group of people to work on that.
I could move on with the work I started on the main structure/layout + content translation (Learn the basics – Libre Currency Ğ1), but I would need some help to decide the structure (we might need to adjust the existing French website to the american culture to be more « straight to the point » even though the monnaie-libre.fr is great from a French perspective) + I need some help to decide and manage the technical aspect for hosting/new domain name vs using the monnaie-libre.fr to create an english version of that one.
Here is the structure I was thinking of (in parenthesis are potential alternative names for these sections):
- Introduction (home)
- Learn (Learn the basics/How it works?)
- Understand the basics (how it works?)
- Economic policy
- Web of Trust
- Blockchain Duniter
- Innovation (difference with other cryptocurrencies)
- Get started (Create a wallet)
- Create a G1 wallet
- Tools and marketplaces
- Running a node
- Find G1 users
- Develop a local economy
Anybody interested in putting up an online meeting to discuss these points ? @Yann could we add this project to the project library of Econolibre ? What do you recommend to move on this project ?
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Hey @MissSoph. Thanks for bringing the international community forward! On my side, I’m currently translating the monnaie-libre.fr website in german with 2-3 other people. I like this one, and I think it’s the best one for new users where I’m living. I don’t know about the american culture of getting straight to the point, but it would surely be a benefit for the entire international community to have such a website. Maybe we could also have both of them (a translation of monnaie-libre.fr just as it is now and another site which is more « straight » to the point.) I’m not sure it makes sense to build on top of the existing monnaie-libre.fr website if you want a completely different structure.
I’m just working on setup a Weblate platform for the Duniter / G1 software ecosystem, as we told on the Duniter forum. I could have the job done in few days. Is it OK for you?
About the more English focused structure (straight to the point). I think the Catalan and Spanish websites are, do you want to have a look at them?